Bo-Honkey

I read this article at “realclimate.org” about the CRU email hack (aka ClimateGate) incident. They would not touch on the Freedom of Information requests, and I red the first 10 or so pages of comments and anyone that asked about the FOI request were ignored. So I just had to comment on some of this article, and show why you do not ask bank robbers if they robbed the bank.

As people are also no doubt aware the breaking into of computers and releasing private information is illegal, and regardless of how they were obtained, posting private correspondence without permission is unethical. We therefore aren’t going to post any of the emails here.

They are taking the moral high ground by not posting the emails. My question is why don’t you just give your self permission and post your own emails? O yes, because you are some of the crooks behind this whole scandal, and it was your emails that were leaked.  So high roaders lets talk about unethical behavior. Is it ethical to try and black ball any scientific journal, or scientists that comes up with any evidence apposed to global warming? For a second lets pretend that global warming was true… call me crazy but wouldn’t it be a good thing if they found out the earth was not “warming” anymore?

We were made aware of the existence of this archive last Tuesday morning when the hackers attempted to upload it to RealClimate, and we notified CRU of their possible security breach later that day.

Nonetheless, these emails (a presumably careful selection of (possibly edited?) correspondence dating back to 1996 and as recently as Nov 12) are being widely circulated, and therefore require some comment.

Of course no one is allowed to think that there is a conspiracy about global warming, but these guys are allowed to say the hacker edited down to 120 megabytes of info ( 2000+ something files, emails, FORTRAN global warming code, models, etc…). So lets examine the hacker file editor conspiracy theory.  For this to happen I guess not only was this a super crazy hacker, but they were also a global warming expert that knows exactly what to cut out to post to the public. They also edited all this down in under a week? So I did a search on how much data is 120 megabytes:

How many 267 page books will fit on a 100 megabyte disk?

  • Assume 2500 characters per page, or 2500 bytes per page.
  • 2500 x 267 = 667,500 bytes/book 0r .6675 megabytes/book
  • Therefore, the number of books is 100/.6675 = 149.8.  Let’s call it 149 books, or even 150.

http://www.facstaff.bucknell.edu/mastascu/elessonshtml/DataFiles/DataFile1.html

Well that’s a hell of a lot of data to have “careful selection” over and “edit” down. Don’t forget 120 megabytes is what they twiddled it down to in 5 days! or by last Tuesday did they mean the 10th?  So I guess they just immediately edited & posted them as they hacked the files off the server. Case solved! I have figured out the ClimateGate hacker’s identity.  Only one person I know that can hack computer systems, read & edit data at mind boggling speeds: Lt Commander Data!

Good Job Data!

Data you have been caught! Good Job!

Since emails are normally intended to be private, people writing them are shall we say, somewhat freer in expressing themselves than they would in a public statement.

This one from my perspective is interesting. From my experience while putting my self through school I first worked in a Wal-Mart store where the prerequisite to being hired is breathing. The level of childish things that went on were off the chart. I worked there for just over a year before I got a job doing computer support where you at least had to have a diploma. The level of drama was slightly lower but still nauseating. Once I graduated with my computer science degree and got a job with other professionals the drama level starts bouncing off of zero. So I’m guessing this rule does not apply to PhDs? Also they are dropping F-bombs in academic correspondence? Guess after Bachelors degree your ego explodes…

More interesting is what is not contained in the emails. There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research

By your own admissions your own website hosting is paid for by EMS.
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/02/a-disclaimer/

They try to down play it saying EMS does not buy them lunch, but how much does the bandwith for your site cost? Alexa.com ranks the site as 72,130th in the world, so I’m betting your bill is kind of high. They also say that EMS does not tell them what to write. Well my response to that would be if you turned around and said global warming was fake would they drop your site? I’m betting yes.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/realclimate.org

Who founded EMS? Arlie Schardt who was Al Gore’s press secretary for his presidential run.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2000/gore/schardt.html

Who is EMS? = EMS/Science Communication Network, A Project Of Tides Center
http://www.sos.wa.gov/charities/search_detail.aspx?charity_id=5740

Who funds EMS / Tides Foundation?
Rockefeller Brother’s Fund:
http://www.rbf.org/grantsdatabase/grantsdatabase_show.htm?doc_id=617346
http://www.rbf.org/grantsdatabase/grantsdatabase_show.htm?doc_id=617342
George Soros:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderProfile.asp?fndid=5184

No doubt, instances of cherry-picked and poorly-worded “gotcha” phrases will be pulled out of context.

Ok, so lets point out some of the things they said in the emails, but did not mention in the “realclimate” page. They do this because they think everyone is to stupid to go read a handful of these email’s for themselves, and instead take their word for it.

This is one from Michael Mann. I’m guessing he is second in command at “realclimate”. So in this email they are stating the bias of “realclimate” by screening comments. I mean if global warming is so bullet proof why wouldn’t you welcome anyone’s idea, and shoot it down with in the means of science and proof?

Michael Mann’s Bio
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/category/extras/contributor-bios/

Original Filename: 1139521913.txt

From: “Michael E. Mann”
To: Tim Osborn , Keith Briffa
Subject: update
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:51:xxx xxxx xxxx
Reply-to: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: Gavin Schmidt

guys, I see that Science has already gone online w/ the new issue, so we
put up the RC post. By now, you’ve probably read that nasty McIntyre
thing. Apparently, he violated the embargo on his website (I don’t go
there personally, but so I’m informed).

Anyway, I wanted you guys to know that you’re free to use RC in any way
you think would be helpful. Gavin and I are going to be careful about
what comments we screen through, and we’ll be very careful to answer any
questions that come up to any extent we can. On the other hand, you
might want to visit the thread and post replies yourself. We can hold
comments up in the queue and contact you about whether or not you think
they should be screened through or not, and if so, any comments you’d
like us to include.

You’re also welcome to do a followup guest post, etc. think of RC as a
resource that is at your disposal to combat any disinformation put
forward by the McIntyres of the world. Just let us know. We’ll use our
best discretion to make sure the skeptics dont’get to use the RC
comments as a megaphone…

mike


Michael E. Mann
Associate Professor
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)

Department of Meteorology Phone: (8xxx xxxx xxxx
503 Walker Building FAX: (8xxx xxxx xxxx
The Pennsylvania State University email: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
University Park, PA 16xxx xxxx xxxx

http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm

This email is from Phil Jones the head of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU), and he tells fellow researchers to not tell anyone that there is a freedom of information act in the UK so that he can keep his global warming algorithm/data secret. Once again, if you have the proof what are you hiding? My comment is that forecasters cannot even tell me what the weather will be tomorrow — so what in the hell makes you think that anyone can tell you what the temperature will be in the next 5, 10, 15 years? He also says just to delete any FOI requests… nice.

Original Filename: 1109021312.txt

From: Phil Jones
To: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: Fwd: CCNet: PRESSURE GROWING ON CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCHER TO DISCLOSE SECRET DATA
Date: Mon Feb 21 16:28:xxx xxxx xxxx
Cc: “raymond s. bradley” , “Malcolm Hughes”

Mike, Ray and Malcolm,
The skeptics seem to be building up a head of steam here ! Maybe we can use
this to our advantage to get the series updated !
Odd idea to update the proxies with satellite estimates of the lower troposphere
rather than surface data !. Odder still that they don’t realise that Moberg et al used the
Jones and Moberg updated series !
Francis Zwiers is till onside. He said that PC1s produce hockey sticks. He stressed
that the late 20th century is the warmest of the millennium, but Regaldo didn’t bother
with that. Also ignored Francis’ comment about all the other series looking similar
to MBH.
The IPCC comes in for a lot of stick.
Leave it to you to delete as appropriate !

Cheers
Phil
PS I’m getting hassled by a couple of people to release the CRU station temperature data.
Don’t any of you three tell anybody that the UK has a Freedom of Information Act !

X-Sender: f023@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:40:05 +0000
To: p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
From: Keith Briffa
Subject: Fwd: CCNet: PRESSURE GROWING ON CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCHER TO
DISCLOSE SECRET DATA

Subject: CCNet: PRESSURE GROWING ON CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCHER TO DISCLOSE SECRET DATA
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 15:02:xxx xxxx xxxx
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
Thread-Topic: pressure grows on climate modellers to relase secret data
Thread-Index: AcUXiV64e/f3Ii8uQSa0X88pndSQgQAl2O1w
From: “Peiser, Benny”
To: “cambridge-conference”
X-UEA-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information
X-UEA-MailScanner: Found to be clean
CCNet 22/2xxx xxxx xxxxFebruary 2005
PRESSURE GROWING ON CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCHER TO DISCLOSE SECRET DATA
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This should have produced a healthy scientific debate. Instead, Mr. Mann tried
to shut down debate by refusing to disclose the mathematical algorithm by which
he arrived at his conclusions. All the same, Mr. Mann was forced to publish a
retraction of some of his initial data, and doubts about his statistical methods
have since grown.

Phil Jones telling Michael Mann to delete emails in regards to FOI — and Michael saying aye aye sir!

Original Filename: 1212063122.txt

From: Michael Mann
To: Phil Jones
Subject: Re: IPCC & FOI
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:12:02 -0400
Reply-to: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx

Hi Phil,

laughable that CA would claim to have discovered the problem. They would
have run off to the Wall Street Journal for an exclusive were that to
have been true.

I’ll contact Gene about this ASAP. His new email is: generwahl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx

talk to you later,

mike

Phil Jones wrote:
>
>> Mike,
> Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4?
> Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment - minor family crisis.
>
> Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don’t
> have his new email address.
>
> We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.
>
> I see that CA claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature
> paper!!
>
> Cheers
> Phil
>
>
>
>>
>
> Prof. Phil Jones
> Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
> School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
> University of East Anglia
> Norwich Email p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> NR4 7TJ
> UK
> —————————————————————————-
>


Michael E. Mann
Associate Professor
Director, Earth System Science Center (ESSC)

Department of Meteorology Phone: (814) 863-4075
503 Walker Building FAX: (814) 865-3663
The Pennsylvania State University email: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
University Park, PA 16802-5013

http://www.met.psu.edu/dept/faculty/mann.htm

Phil Jones Threatens to delete data before giving it over in FOI request.

1107454306.txt

From: Phil Jones <p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: “Michael E. Mann” <mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: For your eyes only
Date: Thu Feb 3 13:11:46 2005

Mike,
It would be good to produce future series with and without the long
instrumental series and maybe the documentary ones as well. The long
measurements can then be used to validate the low-freq aspects at least
back to 1750, maybe earlier with the documentary. There are some key
warm decades (1730s, some in the 16th century) which the Moberg
reconstruction completely misses and gives the impression that all
years are cold between 1500 and 1750.
Away Feb 6-10 and 12-20 and 22-25 (last in Chicago - on the panel to
consider the vertical temp work of CCSP).
Cheers
Phil
Cheers
Phil
At 15:26 02/02/2005, you wrote:

Thanks Phil,
Yes, we’ve learned out lesson about FTP. We’re going to be very careful in the future
what gets put there. Scott really screwed up big time when he established that directory
so that Tim could access the data.
Yeah, there is a freedom of information act in the U.S., and the contrarians are going
to try to use it for all its worth. But there are also intellectual property rights
issues, so it isn’t clear how these sorts of things will play out ultimately in the U.S.
I saw the paleo draft (actually I saw an early version, and sent Keith some minor
comments). It looks very good at present–will be interesting to see how they deal w/
the contrarian criticisms–there will be many. I’m hoping they’ll stand firm (I believe
they will–I think the chapter has the right sort of personalities for that)…
Will keep you updated on stuff…
talk to you later,
mike
At 09:41 AM 2/2/2005, Phil Jones wrote:

Mike,
I presume congratulations are in order - so congrats etc !
Just sent loads of station data to Scott. Make sure he documents everything better
this time ! And don’t leave stuff lying around on ftp sites - you never know who is
trawling
them. The two MMs have been after the CRU station data for years. If they ever hear
there
is a Freedom of Information Act now in the UK, I think I’ll delete the file rather than
send
to anyone. Does your similar act in the US force you to respond to enquiries within
20 days? - our does ! The UK works on precedents, so the first request will test it.
We also
have a data protection act, which I will hide behind. Tom Wigley has sent me a worried
email when he heard about it - thought people could ask him for his model code. He
has retired officially from UEA so he can hide behind that. IPR should be relevant
here,
but I can see me getting into an argument with someone at UEA who’ll say we must adhere
to it !

Are you planning a complete reworking of your paleo series? Like to be involved if
you are.
Had a quick look at Ch 6 on paleo of AR4. The MWP side bar references Briffa, Bradley,
Mann, Jones, Crowley, Hughes, Diaz - oh and Lamb ! Looks OK, but I can’t see it
getting past all the stages in its present form. MM and SB get dismissed. All the
right
emphasis is there, but the wording on occasions will be crucial. I expect this to be
the
main contentious issue in AR4. I expect (hope) that the MSU one will fade away. It
seems
the more the CCSP (the thing Tom Karl is organizing) looks into Christy and Spencer’s
series, the more problems/issues they are finding. I might be on the NRC review panel,
so will keep you informed.
Rob van Dorland is an LA on the Radiative Forcing chapter, so he’s a paleo expert
by GRL statndards.
Cheers
Phil
At 13:41 02/02/2005, you wrote:

Phil–thought I should let you know that its official now that I’ll be moving to Penn
State next Fall.
I’ll be in the Meteorology Dept. & Earth and Environmental Systems Institute, and plan
to head up a center for “Earth System History” within the institute. Will keep you
updated,
Mike

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
NR4 7TJ
UK
—————————————————————————-

______________________________________________________________
Professor Michael E. Mann
Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA 22903
_______________________________________________________________________
e-mail: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) 982-2137
[1]http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
NR4 7TJ
UK
—————————————————————————-

References

1. http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml

this is the article I have been bashing:

The CRU hack

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/11/the-cru-hack/

You Too Can Read The Actual Emails… I just got through doing it for the past 4 or 5 hours, and I have to say a lot of them just plain old suck…

Me: Lt Commander Data!

Data: Yes captain?!

Me: next time do a better job screening the emails so I can just read the cool ones, and make one of the scientests murder a climate skeptic too, might as well make them really look bad!

Data:  aye aye captain!

http://www.eastangliaemails.com/

Praise God! a few weeks ago hackers busted into a British institute’s email archives and stole several thousand documents from top global warming ‘researchers’. The emails are very bad for these crooks because they show deceptiveness, lying, hiding of proof against global warming, black balling of anti-global warming scientist, and on and on and on… Here are some articles I think are important.

Legal fallout of Climategate - CEI to sue NASA

NASA claims national security over Freedom Of Information act request, now some of their scientists have been caught up in this global warming email scandal they have been served with intent to sue if they do not release everything they have.

Legal counsel for the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) filed three Notices of Intent to File Suit against NASA today. Chris Horner, counsel of CEI, said that the suit against NASA and its Goddard Institute of Space Studies is for the agency’s failure to comply with Freedom of Information Act requests for the past three years. Employees of the agency have been mentioned in the now infamous Climategate emails.

http://www.examiner.com/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d24-Legal-fallout-of-Climategate–CEI-to-sue-NASA

Global Warming With the Lid Off

If global warming is so bad, and everyone agrees on it, what are they hiding data sources? why are they deleting emails? why are they trying to black ball anyone with counter arguments?

Consider the following note that appears to have been sent by Mr. Jones to Mr. Mann in May 2008: “Mike, Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise. . . . Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same?” AR4 is shorthand for the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change’s (IPCC) Fourth Assessment Report, presented in 2007 as the consensus view on how bad man-made climate change has supposedly become.
In another email that seems to have been sent in September 2007 to Eugene Wahl of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Paleoclimatology Program and to Caspar Ammann of the National Center for Atmospheric Research’s Climate and Global Dynamics Division, Mr. Jones writes: “[T]ry and change the Received date! Don’t give those skeptics something to amuse themselves with.”

When deleting, doctoring or withholding information didn’t work, Mr. Jones suggested an alternative in an August 2008 email to Gavin Schmidt of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, copied to Mr. Mann. “The FOI [Freedom of Information] line we’re all using is this,” he wrote. “IPCC is exempt from any countries FOI—the skeptics have been told this. Even though we . . . possibly hold relevant info the IPCC is not part of our remit (mission statement, aims etc) therefore we don’t have an obligation to pass it on.”

It also seems Mr. Mann and his friends weren’t averse to blacklisting scientists who disputed some of their contentions, or journals that published their work. “I think we have to stop considering ‘Climate Research’ as a legitimate peer-reviewed journal,” goes one email, apparently written by Mr. Mann to several recipients in March 2003. “Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal.”

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704888404574547730924988354.html

CLIMATE BOMBSHELL: Hacker leaks thousands of emails showing conspiracy to “hide” the real data on manmade climate change

More admittance to hiding data of temperature decline, and black balling scientists.

I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.

Proving bad behavior here is very difficult. If you think that Saiers is in the greenhouse skeptics camp, then, if we can find documentary evidence of this, we could go through official AGU channels to get him ousted.

http://www.jonesreport.com/article/11_09/20climate_bombshell.html

Congress May Probe Leaked Global Warming E-Mails

Al Gore’s silver bullet of proof which is computer simulations have been reviewed and are total crap where the coder mickey rigs stuff up, uses unvalidated source data (ever heard of crap in crap out?), and other blatant things to (as stated above) hide the temperature decline.

Programmer-written comments inserted into CRU’s Fortran code have drawn fire as well. The file briffa_sep98_d.pro says: “Apply a VERY ARTIFICAL correction for decline!!” and “APPLY ARTIFICIAL CORRECTION.” Another, quantify_tsdcal.pro, says: “Low pass filtering at century and longer time scales never gets rid of the trend - so eventually I start to scale down the 120-yr low pass time series to mimic the effect of removing/adding longer time scales!”

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/24/taking_liberties/entry5761180.shtml

Al Gore Purchases Carbon Credits From A Company He Himself Owns

Al Gore’s favorite green product? your money in his pocket…

Al Gore defends his extraordinary personal energy usage by telling critics he maintains a “carbon neutral” lifestyle by buying “carbon offsets,” but the company that receives his payments turns out to be partly owned and chaired by the former vice president himself.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/251232

Legion: Satan’s Propaganda

November 21st, 2009

I found this movie clip and it is the most hard core Satan propaganda I have ever seen. It starts off with Micheal the archangel cutting off his wings, and a slave collar falling off of his neck. Then he goes and kills an “angel” (i put angel in quotes because all the angles in this trailer truly look like demons) and when another “angel” says that he is disobeying god Michael says that “I’m following my own orders now”.

It has another “angel” that looks like an old woman and tells this younger woman that her baby is going to F***ING burn, then turns into a zombie, bites this other guys neck and starts demonically crawling up the walls like something out of the Exorcist movie.

Micheal’s roll in this move is to protect this baby that the old woman says is going to burn because this child is some kind of savior of humanity ( slap in the face to Jesus ).

The main “villain” of the movie (other than God him self) is the angel Gabriel. When he first appears Micheal basically tells Gabriel that he is an idiot for following God’s commandments.

I also find it interesting the title of the movie, comparing God’s angels to the daemon that Jesus cast out of the possessed man:

Mark 5 - 7And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. 8For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. 9And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

This movie is total satan propaganda… It demonizes God all-mighty, and says his angels are savage brain eating zombie/daemons.  It states that Michael (God’s top angel) is smarter & wiser than God, and that God is really a slave master (hence the slave collar thing that falls off of Micheal’s neck). So when Micheal does something “noble” to save humans, this gives power to lucifer by showing that maybe he was not wrong and/or maybe had noble reasoning when he fell from heaven.

to watch this really screwed up trailer go to this website, and click on “restricted version”:

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/legion/

Tamer version:

I am currently reading The Impact of Science on Society by Bertrand Russell. in the following quote he is talking about what he calls the `war mentality`…

It is difficult for a man of ardent political convictions to admit either the shortcomings of politicians of his own Party of the merits of those the opposite Party. And so it comes about that, whenever an organization has a combatant purpose, its members are reluctant to criticize their officials, and tend to acquiesce in usurpations and arbitrary exercises of power which, but for the war mentality, they would bitterly resent. It is the war mentality that gives officials and governments their opportunity. -Bertrand Russell

What he is talking about how governments use tribalism to conquer people.  Like in sports you have your local team that you are behind. Take the Razorbacks for instance, as long as I can remember they pretty much suck at football. If you were at a game and got tired of watching them loose would you instead start cheering on the other team? Probably not out of fear of rejection of the people around you. This is the same for our two system political party — most people have the same party affiliations as their parents. You are raised with the frame work that said political party is supposed to uphold (even though they hardly do). So even if the party is not upholding its own principles people will still call themselves one party or the other because they still believe in the frame work the party was originally built on deciding to ignore or play down things their party does.

Further galvanizing the left right paradigm is the right wing radio, and the liberal owned TV media. When your team is out of power your cheerleaders attack the team that is in power pointing out all the things they do wrong. When your team is in power the cheerleaders begin to overlook the lies and the bad things the politicians do. This keeps you locked into the left/right paradigm. What people need to realize if you want to get somewhat accurate news is to listen to the right wing while the left is in power, and watch the liberal media when the right is in power (and use your brain to filter out all the BS that they throw in).

Bertrand Russell is one of the main philosophers of the New World Order and a term that he uses often `the Scientific Dictatorship`.  This is one of the guys that designed the system we are living in today back in the 1940s — a global elitist that thinks you are a dog that’s only purpose in life is to work and serve the top 20 or so families in the world. Everyone just needs to realize that their football team stinks and is really selling you down the river into a one world government — so the question is how long are you going to sit and watch your team suck before you find one that is not taking your freedoms, listening to your phone calls, taking naked pictures of you at airports, and on and on and on….

The Body Is A Machine…?

October 31st, 2009

Have you ever heard someone say that “the body is a machine”? I sat and pondered this today from the view point of a Christian and an atheist. This phrase is usually evoked by non-believers as a way to demean or undermine exactly what humans are, but what I think is funny is when you look up the definition in a dictionary or encyclopedia:

an apparatus consisting of interrelated parts with separate functions, used in the performance of some kind of work: a sewing machine.
a person or thing that acts in a mechanical or automatic manner. Routine work had turned her into a machine.
- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/machine.

machine, arrangement of moving and stationary mechanical parts used to perform some useful work or to provide transportation. From a historical perspective, many of the first machines were the result of human efforts to improve war-making capabilities; the term engineer at one time had an exclusively military connotation. In the United States the original colonies were not permitted to make or import machine tools; it was only after the Revolution that the first manufacturing machines were built (c.1790) by Samuel Slater for a textile mill in Pawtucket, R.I. - http://www.reference.com/browse/machine

There are several issues when you look at it by definition:

  • First Are humans really just a machine that does useful work? Machines work in a known and predictable way otherwise they would not be a very useful tool. Humans on the other hand have free will to be useful/useless, create/destroy, think/feel, and love/hate.
  • Second - is who made the machine? Last time I checked machines don’t make them selves from nothing or dirt and water.  Even though we are getting to the point where machines will make other machines a human still had to make the first one (but that is a entirely different and nauseating subject).

Its interesting that we think we are so smart, and our technology is so advanced, but in just the first two years of life a baby will grow from not knowing anything to teaching its self how to think and process information, communicate with other people, and even walk!  I challenge anyone to format your hard drive and leave your computer running for two years and see if it comes up with its own form of windows that you can use to get on the internet. Any takers…?  We have had computers in some form or another since WWII (you know those tattoos on the Jew’s arms? those are IBM computer numbers) and that was over 70 years ago! To imagine that we do not have a computer that can think on its own, or break down simple sentences and create new subroutines to preform requests based on what the sentience means. The closest thing we have to a walking robot is that white Toyota thing that looks totally ridiculous. I mean if a baby can do these things in the first two years of life why haven’t we been able to make a computer do these things in an entire human’s lifetime? Wake up people your self importance is such a laughable joke.

Another thing I like to think about is the DNA Chicken and the Egg question. (Keep in mind this is really simplified) DNA can be thought of as a USB thumb drive that has a program on it — lets say it is your favorite video game and instructions that tell your computer how to run that game. So if you had a thumb drive with your favorite game on it what could you do with it if you do not have a computer? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! it is worthless with out a computer to read and interpret it! The “Simple Cell” (if you can call it “simple”) can be thought of as that computer we are needing to play our video game that resides on our thumb drive.  You put the thumb drive into the computer and like magic you are now able to play your game. So my question now is what can you do with just a computer and no programs for it to process? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! is is worthless with out a computer program!

The Chicken or the Egg, DNA or Protein? (dang someone already came up with my phrase!)
http://www.detectingdesign.com/abiogenesis.html

Lets explain how computers came into existence. Someone though hey lets create a device that we know as the “computer” that can do some type of calculations based on some type of changeable state (it would be kind of silly to just come up with the answer to 1+1 all day!)  and we call this a “program”. The first computers were based on switches that could be in either the on or off position  to form a combination of 1s and 0s. These ones and zeros are then combined to create numbers, and operations on those numbers to preform basic math much like a simple calculator would today. So now that I have given the history in a nutshell my question would be: did they come up with one, and then say “hmmm what could I do with this thingy?”… No They were designed at the same time! It is meaningless to have one with out the other! It would be like the person that first invited the bottle cap (they didn’t always twist off folks!) with out a way to open the dang thing — it would make no sense!

So if someone tells you that the body is a machine ask them — if that is true who designed it? Deny it all you want people, but I guess some people like to think of them selves as machines, while others like to think they are monkeys. Myself on the other hand know I am a divine child of the creator of the universe the God of the Jews - Yahweh (AKA Jesus), and he made me in his image. Unfortunately in this plane of existence we are all just prisoners of the flesh due to the failures of our parents, as so were they failed by their parents on down the line to Adam & Eve at which time we were destined to the curses of this world. We too shall fail our children, but our ultimate goal is to educate them enough that when they pass from the shell of this world through death - unto the birth into the real existence that the most perfect heavenly father will smile upon them and say you have done well in my test — welcome to eternity in paradise, and you will be there watching.

We Are Change Chicago confronted Richard Dreyfuss about 9-11 truth. He said that it is too soon to investigate giving some BS about if they were to have built an Abraham Lincoln memorial right after the civil war there would not be an America today, and going on to say that we should not investigate 9-11 because “there are to many emotions involved”.  The thing that struck me is before the guy that questioned him got to ask his his question someone told Dreyfuss something about may the Angels and God bless you, and Dreyfuss responds something about Lucifier too (its not posted in the source below, but the guy called into the Alex Jones show and talked about it).  Unfortunately they did not get this on film because it was before they had the camera rolling.  Dreyfuss is a CFR member, and talks like a serpent when confronted with real issues.

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. - 2 Corinthians 4:4

We Are Change Chicago Blog Talking About Dreyfuss’ Lucifer Comment:
http://www.meetup.com/wearechangechicago/boards/thread/7757959/

Dreyfuss the CFR Member:
http://www.cfr.org/publication/11062/history_makers_series.html

Brand new - came out yesterday! Another FREE & EXCELLENT movie by Alex Jones that breaks down the housing collapse, banker take over, TV mind control, left/right paradigm, the Sports Tribalism control method, Global Warming Hoax, the power elite and their puppet Barack Obama. Send it to EVERYONE!

When you start disrespecting life with abortions, and treating people like animals saying whether or not they can reproduce this is what happens….

Chinese Eat Baby Soup for Sex

China with their one child policy and the “must have a male child” mentality have started up some very disturbing practices. They are eating the aborted babies as soon as they find out it is a girl. The earliest to tell the sex of the child is between 16 & 18 weeks (so between 4 and 5 months).
Warning this link actually shows pictures of Devils cooking and devouring a 5 month aborted old baby.
http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=7333
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A barbaric kind of beauty

Women getting aborted babies injected into their faces to look younger, to bad these women are still ugly hag bitch inside.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-399376/A-barbaric-kind-beauty.html
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Baby Body Parts For Sale!

Planned Parenthood (One of Bill Gates Murder Companies) has a scheme where it sells baby body parts to companies for experiments. I have read in other places they are talking about giving away “free” abortions because they are making so much money off of selling dead babies.
http://lifedynamics.com/Abortion_Information/Baby_Body_Parts/index.cfm
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Chinese army ‘harvesting body parts’

China kills prisoners for their organs. You need an organ? One sec while I go pop some political dissident in the head.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21152231-1702,00.html
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China makes ultimate punishment mobile

And don’t forget the mobile organ harvesting buses.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-14-death-van_x.htm
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What Barack Obama defended three times: Live Birth Abortion

Live birth abortions (which Obama just loves and defends!) is the practice where they induce labor, and let the baby die after it is born.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2060118/posts

Litmus Tests, Slippery Slopes

Article on how it should be Ok to murder babies with birth defects up to a week.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/articles/980126/archive_003047_2.htm
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Chilling Protocol

Comment from a doctor about “Mercy Killing” babies “It is in some ways beautiful”, yea nothing like snuffing out a baby.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/campbell200603130818.asp
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Texas bill would decriminalize infanticide

Why stop there? This was an attempt in Texas this year to make murdering a 1 year old or younger child a felony rather than homicide with max jail time as 2 years.
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2009/04/texas_bill_woul.html
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Oregon Rationing Cancer Treatment but Offering Assisted Suicide to Cancer Patients Paying to Die but not to Live

Insurance companies would rather pay to off you than treat your cancer. How long ago was all that Kevorkian garbage? And now its kosher?
http://www.pccef.org/articles/art67.htm
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Aborted Babies Are Big Business

This is a good summary article that helped me find some of the stuff posted above like the hags shooting dead babies into their face.

“puncturing the sac of a pregnant woman at let us say 14 to 16 weeks, and then they put a clamp on the head of the baby, pull the head down into the neck of the womb, drill a hole into the baby’s head, and then put a suction machine into the brain and suck out the brain cells.”

http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/commentary.asp?record_id=385
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What kind of ghouls are we turning into? In the beginning God did not say populate the earth up to 6 billion and then start feeding on your selves and killing your babies. I pray for God to strike down these daemons.

The world today reminds me of a time when me and Vincent (my previous step-father) went to go look at a house in Louisiana that was trashed by the previous owner (he wanted to get it for cheap and fix it up). They had left food in the refrigerator, and some how like they always do flies some how got in there and laid eggs in the rotten food. By the time Vincent and I had the privilege of opening the refrigerator the maggot-fly life cycle had already transpired several times over, and the mass of writhing maggots was feasting on a the black and rotten corpses of previous generations of maggots.

Here is End Game if you have not watched it yet…

The Gay Agenda Continues…

Ever Wonder How They Make Hubby Hubby Ice Cream?

Ever Wonder How They Make Hubby Hubby Ice Cream?

The Lucis Trust started out as the “Lucifer Publishing Company” by their own admissions (yea so don’t call them the Lucifer Trust!). They have a group called the “World Goodwill” that has a NGO (non-government organization) seat at the UN. I guess even Satan worshipers have their place in world government, o yea that is what forces Jesus to come back to earth.

There are comments on the World Wide Web claiming that the Lucis Trust was once called the Lucifer Trust. Such was never the case. However, for a brief period of two or three years in the early 1920’s, when Alice and Foster Bailey were beginning to publish the books published under her name, they named their fledgling publishing company “Lucifer Publishing Company”. By 1925 the name was changed to Lucis Publishing Company and has remained so ever since. Both “Lucifer” and “Lucis” come from the same word root, lucis being the Latin generative case meaning of light. The Baileys’ reasons for choosing the original name are not known to us, but we can only surmise that they, like the great teacher H.P. Blavatsky, for whom they had enormous respect, sought to elicit a deeper understanding of the sacrifice made by Lucifer. Alice and Foster Bailey were serious students and teachers of Theosophy, a spiritual tradition which views Lucifer as one of the solar Angels, those advanced Beings Who Theosophy says descended (thus “the fall”) from Venus to our planet eons ago to bring the principle of mind to what was then animal-man. In the theosophical perspective, the descent of these solar Angels was not a fall into sin or disgrace but rather an act of great sacrifice, as is suggested in the name “Lucifer” which means light-bearer.

Admission of their Love of Lucifer the “Solar Angel”:
http://www.lucistrust.org/en/arcane_school/talks_and_articles/the_esoteric_meaning_of_lucifer

The Page Declaring Ownership of the “World Goodwill” Group:
http://www.lucistrust.org/en/service_activities/world_goodwill__1

UN.ORG page stating they are allowing a Satan Worshiping Cult a NGO Seat:
http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/asp/form.asp?RegID=all&CnID=US&AcID=-1&kw=&NGOID=1510

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